Selecting a President…Again

Two Christian leaders disagree strongly over the US presidential election. One says one way to vote; the other says another way to vote. I would add a different perspective when looking at this issue. ◊

PresidentailElectionFour years ago there was a fascinating exchange of ideas conveyed in articles written by two respected pillars of the American Christian community.

John Piper and Wayne Grudem are big conservative voices for the evangelical Christian church. Each published an article about the US presidential election in October 2020. Grudem took a strong but gracious opposing stance against the position taken by his longtime friend, John Piper.

Essentially, John Piper came out against both candidates, saying that President Donald Trump is morally bereft and that candidate Joe Biden is deficient regarding public policy.1 Grudem favored President Trump for his pro-life position and other economic policies that he finds superior to that of the opposition candidate.

While Piper ultimately settled on voting for neither candidate, Grudem made a strong conclusion that Christians should vote for President Trump, and that any protest vote, non-vote, or vote for the opposition is the antithesis of Biblical standards and beliefs.2

Now 4 years later in 2024 we are faced with a very similar choice: Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden’s substitute, Kamala Harris. Both Piper and Grudem have yet to chime in on the matter – not too surprising given the flack they each most likely took the first go around from Christians on both sides of the spectrum.

My Own 3 Guiding Principles in Selecting Leaders
Before I share my own voting preference, let me say that I’m still motivated by 3 guiding principles in choosing or voting for, (or hiring) leaders, in politics and in business:

  1. Competence
  2. Fairness
  3. Goodness (ideally Godliness)

I want leaders that are excellent and highly capable in what they do. I also want leaders that operate by set rules and standards and do not cheat or abuse or selfishly manipulate circumstances for their own benefit. Finally, related to fair play, but going further, I want leaders that are good people, even Godly people.

They don’t have to be Christian, but they have to acknowledge and respect God, Jesus Christ, and the Word of God, the Bible. With no expectation of perfection, as we are all sinners and fall short, out of that recognition of a Higher Authority and the existence of dictums of moral guidance, that leader should be guided and motivated to “do good in the eyes of the Lord.”

Here is a further break down of my 3 Guiding Principles in selecting Leaders:

1. Competence – having operated in the corporate international business world all of my career, I have long desired a US President that operated like a competent CEO of a major corporation, rather than a non-business savvy politician. The presidency of the United States is a significant job that requires executive level skills and intellectual competence. Skill and competence come from experience and hard work and study. Business skills and experience is a huge plus for a political leader. Top producers/leaders show their prowess by their work output and success metrics.

Additionally, for any executive level position, the breadth and depth and import of matters at hand are tremendous for one person. A CEO, like the President, requires the ability to build a trustworthy team around them and the ability to multi-task and communicate a plan of action. The real proof ultimately, however, is in the results. Executives in business and politics who markedly achieve what they set out to accomplish prove their worth and earn my support, assuming they score well in the other following areas. 

2. Fairness – The US is a nation run by the Rule of Law. Without adherence to prescribed moral and legal ground rules, there would be chaos and anarchy in the streets. A leader should themselves operate under these rules for themselves and their families in all matters of personal and public life. And their policies support the enforcement of the Rule of Law. Any illegal activity is a breach of public trust and should be addressed as no one person or family are themselves above the law.

Fairness does not preclude competitiveness or aggressive play. Winners in sports, business, politics, and life, are those that play/work hard with assertive passion, but fairly without cheating or illegally cutting corners. Those that cheat are not winners.

3. Goodness (ideally Godliness) – The US President need not be a saint or Sunday School teacher or have the perfect family life. The same is true for any person elected to Congress or selected to be a CEO of any sized company. They may even have had a sordid past life that has been turned around and is now back on track. But they must now be good. They must know right from wrong, and recognize evil when they see it. And not be afraid to boldly call it out and confront it.

As stated, they may not even be a Christ-following Christian. We all know people whose life was a long journey moving toward a fully-surrendered life of faith and obedience to Christ. But to that end, a US President should acknowledge and respect and even “fear the Lord God” with homage paid to the Word of God (the Bible) and the community of Christians and all peoples of faith.

So, Trump vs. Harris?
I suspect that we all know Christians who are averse to President Trump for being guilty of “unrepentant sexual immorality” and “unrepentant boastfulness” or against Joe Biden (or Kamala Harris) for supporting policies that endorse “baby-killing,” “sex-switching,” and “socialistic overreach,” – to use John Piper’s terms. We’ve probably engaged in genteel and even heated debates on these matters with our Christian and secular friends. 

I agree with Wayne Grudem’s assertion that a leader’s character flaws do not necessarily degrade a nation. He points out that:

…while King Jeroboam “made Israel to sin” (1 Kings 14:16), the previous chapters do not say that this involved imitation of Jeroboam’s moral character, but instead the text specifies that Jeroboam’s sin was in making idols and constructing alternative worship centers and then ordaining priests who were not Levites, all of which contradicted God’s commands.

In other words, the leader led the way in disobedience to the ways of God. This is not the case occurring here in the US, a non-theocracy. Only in the area of abortion, which raises one clear line of delineation between the two candidates, can one make a charge of contradicting God’s commands. By the way, Gruden states that:

the primary motive behind support for abortion rights is a desire for sexual freedom without the responsibility of raising children.

Put in those simple terms, abortion goes beyond the taking of a created life, but to the selfish disregard for and disobedience to God’s purpose of sex within the confines of marriage. 

I also agree with Grudem’s statement that:

With Trump, we will get good policies and character flaws, but with Biden we will get bad policies and character flaws.4

Trump is arrogant, petulant, brash, and vindictive. And he has also been married 3 times and has been unfaithful in his marriages. There are flaws in need of work, but certainly not disqualifying for the role of a senior executive, even the Chief Executive of the United States. History and nations have treated many personally flawed leaders with accolades for their accomplishments, even Biblical leaders like Abraham, Jacob, and David.

But outside of any criticism of his production in almost 50 years in government, Gruden highlighted an entirely different set of character flaws that apply to Vice President Biden:

The multiple allegations that Vice President Biden used his government office and influence to enrich members of his own family with millions of dollars from China, Russia, and Ukraine should be of deep concern, because using government power to enrich one’s own family is the consistent characteristic of corrupt leaders in many countries of the world.5

That John Piper did not reference these allegations about Joe Biden in his 2020 article tells me he does not see them as substantive, or that he did not see them at all. Given the national media blackout on these allegations at the time, I suspect the latter is the case.

Since then, much evidence has come out to support these allegations of deep corruption of the Biden family.

Either way, like Wayne Grudem, I voted for President Trump in 2020 and will vote for him again in 2024 over Kamala Harris, an even lesser candidate than Biden. In addition to supporting Trump’s anti-abortion mindset, anti-crime, rational immigration and economic policies, extensive business experience, prowess, and proven international backbone, my reasons go back to my 3 Guiding Principles in selecting executive leaders in business and politics: 1) Competence, 2) Fairness, and 3) Goodness (ideally Godliness).

Final Intriguing Thought
Here’s another thought for Christians that might change your perspective on if and how one votes:

Vote today for leaders and policies as if Jesus is not coming back until over 100 years after you’re gone.

We believers in Christ are to be salt and light in a world that needs it. Jesus referred to salt because it was a preservative for food. Christians and their impact are like preservatives in an inherently evil world full of ungodly men and women whose unredeemed natures are corrupted by sin.  

Don’t give up but be the best salt and light in a world that needs it.

Are you voting for the best and brightest? Why not?
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When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan. – Proverbs 29:2

“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.” – Matthew 5:13

1 Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin, by John Piper, in Desiring God, October 22, 2020. https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/policies-persons-and-paths-to-ruin

2 A Respectful Response to My Friend John Piper About Voting for Trump, by Wayne Grudem, in Christian Post, October 27, 2020. https://www.christianpost.com/voice/a-response-to-my-friend-john-piper-about-voting-for-trump.html

3 Ibid.

4 Ibid.

5 Ibid.



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12 replies

  1. If you don’t think what’s below disqualifies the rottenness of Trumps life, cheating, fraud of a university, and most likely his sex life has led to abortions…(he doesn’t care about ‘pro life’,and his threats on the FBI and State Department being serious, I don’t sense you’re applying ‘Biblical Viewpoint’. get serious!

    P.S. Why did you not compare Biden’s career in the Senate, well known efforts at being a family man…

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    • As highlighted in my BV article/post, serious Christians can have differing viewpoints on public figures. John Piper and John Grudem do; as do others like you and me.

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      • Michael, as a devout spirit filled Christ follower, I like and agree with your three characteristics your look for in Presidential candidate. But as I apply them, I come to different conclusion. I see no decency or a thread of godliness in Mr. Trump, but I know as a John Piper has preached on many times, that our God is sovereign in all things, including as Paul reminds us in Romans 13, in choosing leaders of nations.Mr Tump is our President because in God’s grand plan, Mr. Trump will do things that contributes to fulfilling that plan So I am good with it for I have Romans 8:28 as solace.

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    • Swan1, you are sorely, woefully, painfully ill informed on anything pertaining to the Biden’s. It pains me how little people know. (Or how little people are willing to know.) It’s not like it’s secret anymore. That’s the power of media narrative (or lack thereof) and the shiny veneer of big, beautiful government and its comforting appearances. Everything looks good, feels good. Biden, ah Biden, what a guy, right? You’re an absolute sucker who gets news from social media soundbites and snapshots.

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  2. Does the math on this chance if there’s concern the elected person may not give up power when their term is over? (See Trump post 2020 election).

    Trumps flaws include the above mentioned in your article plus extreme narcissism. He tries to embarrass anyone who even so much looks at him sideways. He demands full loyalty.

    I cannot vote for Kamala given the policies mentioned in your article, but I just don’t think I can vote for Trump either. My current plan is to fill out every part of my ballot but abstain from the presidential race.

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    • Kyle, a few thoughts here.

      First, if you look deep (or even superficially) into the post-2020 election hoopla, the concern about one giving up power is exaggerated.

      Second, all candidates/people have personal flaws, past and present, agregious or merely irritating and obnoxious. You and I do, as well as these two presidential candidates, or anyone seeking political office. The important thing is the impact of one candidate over another on a city, state, nation and culture and our own practical lives. Leaders and their administrations impose consequences driven by their personal philosophies and enforced public, social and economic policies.

      Trump, while personally controversial, was president for 4 years which we can easily compare side-by-side to 4 years of the Biden/Harris administration. If one factors out Covid (an imposed global epidemic), then common social and economic sense, with intellectual honesty, will favor the Trump era vs. the Biden/Harris era.

      Trump favors American strength globally, is anti-abortion (at least lets the states decide), seems to respect the Bible and is God-fearing, is pro law enforcement, is economically and intellectually competent and experienced, and has a rational approach to sane immigration policy.

      With no comment on Biden/Harris’ true faith, they and their party represent essentially the opposite on all other fronts stated.

      As God-fearing Christ-followers, I believe we should pray for our leaders. respect our nation, and vote for leaders that best support Godly perspectives. (As a far-fetched example, I would have voted for a very flawed King David, and an even more flawed yet converted King Nebuchadnezzar.)

      I do believe that to avoid voting for a better civic option because you don’t like one’s personality is a weak response. Christians should raise up and demand God-fearing leaders and God-fearing policies.

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      • i am most concerned about my fellow believers who first only get their news from conservative opinion based entertainment news rather than seeking a more factual news source, such as Reuters or BBC. I think Trumps words and deeds matter and we as believers need to listen carefully and believe what he says and does. These are verified facts that should concern us all. Donald Trump has made several statements that suggest an interest in using authoritarian techniques that could undermine democratic norms in the United States. Here are a few notable examples:

        1. Discrediting Election Processes and Refusing to Accept Results:

        Claims of Election Fraud: Trump repeatedly claimed the 2020 election was “stolen” and pushed unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud, which led to the January 6 Capitol riot and deepened distrust in U.S. elections.

        Undermining Confidence in Voting by Mail: Leading up to the 2020 election, Trump frequently criticized mail-in voting, falsely claiming it would lead to massive fraud. This eroded public trust in the election process.

        Pressure on State Officials: Trump’s attempts to pressure officials, such as the infamous call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” enough votes to overturn the election result, showed a willingness to use his influence to challenge electoral integrity.

        2. Authoritarian Language and Admiration for Strongmen:

        Praise for Authoritarian Leaders: Trump has repeatedly praised authoritarian figures like Putin, Xi Jinping, and Kim Jong-un, often noting their strength and control over their countries. In 2018, Trump commented on Kim Jong-un’s leadership style, saying, “He speaks, and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

        Downplaying Constitutional Limits: Trump has publicly suggested that he deserves extended terms in office beyond the two-term limit set by the U.S. Constitution, even retweeting jokes and statements suggesting he should remain president beyond the typical eight years.

        3. Attacks on the Media:

        Labeling the Media as the “Enemy of the People”: Trump has repeatedly referred to journalists and news organizations as “the enemy of the people,” a phrase historically used by authoritarian leaders to delegitimize critical media. He frequently attacked specific outlets, suggesting they spread “fake news” to discredit negative press.

        Threatening to Change Media Libel Laws: Trump often voiced interest in weakening libel protections to make it easier to sue news organizations, suggesting he wanted greater control over what is reported about him and others in power.

        4. Encouraging Violence and Vigilantism:

        Comments Inciting Violence: Trump has occasionally encouraged physical aggression at rallies, telling supporters to “knock the crap” out of protestors or saying he would pay legal fees for those who did so. This rhetoric has contributed to a culture of political violence.

        Failure to Clearly Condemn Extremist Groups: Trump’s reluctance to condemn far-right and white supremacist groups (such as telling the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” during a debate) has been interpreted as tacit encouragement, emboldening these groups.

        5. Consolidating Control and Weakening Checks on Power:

        Dismissal of Key Officials and Loyalty Demands: Trump often replaced officials who did not demonstrate personal loyalty to him or refused to support his claims, including FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. This demonstrated a pattern of valuing loyalty over independent governance.

        Suggestion of Prosecution for Political Opponents: Trump frequently suggested that his political opponents, particularly Hillary Clinton, should be jailed, leading “Lock her up!” chants at rallies. This rhetoric normalized the idea of using the judicial system to target political opponents.

        These statements and actions suggest an openness to undermining democratic norms, using legal and extralegal means to consolidate power, and attacking democratic institutions like the press, judiciary, and electoral systems. This approach raises concerns about the potential erosion of checks and balances that are fundamental to American democracy.

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      • Tibbie,
        Thanks for your extended commentary. I see that you are genuinely concerned about all this that you delineate. As a fellow believer, I really don’t think you or the country has anything to fear from a Trump presidency. Again, we all had 4 years earlier to compare to the 4 years of a Biden/Harris presidency. He did not tear apart all the institutions that you claim here. He did call out corruption and deceit embedded in the very institutions we all once held up as beyond reproach.

        That you even mention Reuters and the BBC is interesting. These 2 media institutions are very much a part of what I and many believe are a compromised global media complex. Your list of topics of concern literally reads like the entire Biden/Harris campaign and Democratic National Campaign talking points. I’d encourage you to branch beyond standard media channels to hear information that you may have never heard before.

        Here’s a fascinating, but long video, sent to me this week by a friend developed by a long-standing liberal who was now changing their stance once they became informed on information they’d never seen before. As I’ve noted before in this blog, when it comes to anything you believe, you have to ask yourself “Who told me this is true?” Sometimes we have to get out of our normal realm to fully see if our beliefs hold up to full scrutiny.

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      • Sir, What do you think about Trump now? About his competence, fairness and goodness?

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  3. Tibbie

    Your attempt to sound balanced is pathetic and hypocritical. The fact you believe BBC and Reuters are some middle of the road arbiters of truth is a joke. Do you know how many times I’ve heard them fact checked and debunked over the past ten years of Trump? Do you realize that right leaning outlets get majority of their content simply from correcting Left outlets and highlighting how they spin information and data to create their headlines – the kind that deceive impressionable people like you?

    The reality here is – you don’t get any center, center-right, or right leaning news sources, but you hop on blogs with your little copy paste thesis to sound like you do. Literally every single point of you diatribe outline is true of the Democrat party. LITERALLY every point. There’s one reason you’ve arrived where you are, and one reason alone — you hate Trump, which opens you up to believe ANYTHING anybody with the same emotional constitution says. It’s called BIAS. And you’ve never learned how to recognize it within yourself and actually do the work of parsing out information despite how you feel. Not one ounce of principle in your post, none. You’re a parrot of CNN, completely regurgitating literally everything they say.

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  4. My, My, “K9life” l love your dog. I am afraid you have a anger problem though. We are all trying to Find the truth from our government system and we never will. Its March 11 now in 2025 and chaos. If Trump loves America and the people He would have picked more wisely his cabinet. He wants to be a dictator, I show he played a small part in. I believe we should all be able to see that by now. (By the way he said so. Look that up,” “K9life”.) He wants, wants, whatever he wants. Does he show any signs of compassion? No. He learned to be a actor on the short lived tv show, went bankrupt 4t- 6 times; depends who’s talking. But I meant to focus on now. Are he and his hires performing wisely, intellectually, compassionately, peacefully, truthfully? Is America safer in regard to long time friendly countries that had our back? Do these countries trust US has their back now? Except for Russia and North Korea? Answer with research and wisdom please.

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  5. To Donna, in answer to your question: “Sir, What do you think about Trump now? About his competence, fairness and goodness?”

    I believe the first 100 days have shown real indications of a significant shift in US government and policy trends. All signs show competence, fairness and goodness by the president and his cabinet staff and agencies.

    As I mentioned, regarding Compentence: The presidency of the United States is a significant job that requires executive level skills and intellectual competence. Trump and his team are professional business people. To me, they would be the type of people I’d hire to run a multinational company. Don’t read the media/press accounts; read the bios of each and every member of the cabinet yourself and judge for compentency. It’s not a Republican or Democrat thing, it’s a competence and experience thing beyond politics.

    As I mentioned regarding Fairness: And their policies support the enforcement of the Rule of Law. Any illegal activity is a breach of public trust and should be addressed as no one person or family are themselves above the law. Trump is implementing laws regarding illegal aliens and is removing law-breakers. You may not think that’s fair, but it is upholding the law which the previous administration had no regard for enforcing. Trump was tried by his political enemies and all charges did not stick. The previous adminstration needed to pardon key people and family members to avoid prosecution or real crimes.

    Finally, as I mentioned regarding Goodness: They may even have had a sordid past life that has been turned around and is now back on track. But they must now be good. They must know right from wrong, and recognize evil when they see it. And not be afraid to boldly call it out and confront it. Trump, if you listen to him speak, and not enemy media posts or clips, intends for good (pro-Life, anti-war, pro-labor, pro-American jobs, pro-efficient government, pro-fair trade, pro-religious freedom, even pro-Christianity). Trump also calls out evil and wrong-doing (terrorisim, stealing, child-trafficking, drug-trafficking, crime). As mentioned, our leaders need not be perfect, but they must do good, and be against bad. Trump’s predessors were not so clear cut with their policies.

    The people wanted a real change from the weaknesses of the past administration. They are getting what they wanted. But watch the right indicators, not the enemy pundits. By the way, the economy will turn in time, no one expected the turn in 100 days.

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